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{{RightToC}}For information on the topic of continuity in fiction, continuity errors, and retroactive continuity (retcon), see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_(fiction) wikipedia - Continuity (fiction)]
{{RightToC}}For information on the topic of continuity in fiction, continuity errors, and retroactive continuity (retcon), see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_(fiction) wikipedia - Continuity (fiction)]


== Major issues in Continuity ==
The following pages attempt to document various errors in continuity, and if possible, draw a reasonable conclusion on what can be considered "canon".
A major issue in continuity is one which spans several pieces and/or is an issue in a key aspect of the story.
* [[Continuity/Ages of the Empyrean Versus The History of Auberean|Ages of the Empyrean Versus The History of Auberean]]
* [[Continuity/Aluvian History|Aluvian History]]
* [[Continuity/Gharu'ndim History|Gharu'ndim History]]
* [[Continuity/In-Game Calendar|In-Game Calendar]]
* [[Continuity/Kellin I and Caerlin I|Kellin I and Caerlin I]]
* [[Continuity/Roulean Calendar and Portal Years|Roulean Calendar and Portal Years]]
* [[Continuity/Rytheran and the Graveyard|Rytheran and the Graveyard]]
* [[Continuity/Tanada House of Earth|Tanada House of Earth]]
* [[Continuity/Undead|Undead]]
 
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* Basic Back-story
* Basic Back-story
** [[Continuity/Olthoi Invasion|Olthoi Invasion]]
** [[Continuity/Olthoi Invasion|Olthoi Invasion]]
** [[Continuity/Sundering and The Call|Sundering and The Call]]
** [[Continuity/Sundering and The Call|Sundering and The Call]]
** [[Continuity/Elysa and Thorsten|Elysa And Thorsten]]
** [[Continuity/Elysa and Thorsten|Elysa And Thorsten]]
* [[Continuity/Auberean, Ispar, and Time|Auberean, Ispar, and Time]]
* [[Continuity/Undead|Undead]]
* [[Continuity/Rytheran and the Graveyard|Rytheran and the Graveyard]]
== Minor issues in Continuity ==
A minor issue in continuity is one which only appears in one or two pieces.
* [[Continuity/Tanada House of Earth|Tanada House of Earth]]
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== Basic back-story of AC ==
== Basic back-story of AC ==
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<br><br>The current Yalain Age is Moriqui Eipoth (ME), and was declared by Asheron after he sent his people away. According to information in the [[AC:DM CD Lore/Ages of the Empyrean|Ages of the Empyrean]] lore document included on the AC:DM CD, the date that Isparians first arrived on Dereth was ME 564<ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean>2001/11 [[Dark Majesty]] - [[AC:DM CD Lore/Ages of the Empyrean|Ages of the Empyrean]]</ref>. So the notion that The Sundering instantly caused portals to appear on Ispar is not correct, it took 564 years.  
<br><br>The current Yalain Age is Moriqui Eipoth (ME), and was declared by Asheron after he sent his people away. According to information in the [[AC:DM CD Lore/Ages of the Empyrean|Ages of the Empyrean]] lore document included on the AC:DM CD, the date that Isparians first arrived on Dereth was ME 564<ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean>2001/11 [[Dark Majesty]] - [[AC:DM CD Lore/Ages of the Empyrean|Ages of the Empyrean]]</ref>. So the notion that The Sundering instantly caused portals to appear on Ispar is not correct, it took 564 years.  
<br><br>According to the [[AC:DM CD Lore]], the Virindi arrived on Dereth before any other race, and they fought Asheron over something and lost.<ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean/><ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean>2001/11 [[Dark Majesty]] - [[AC:DM_CD_Lore/Bestiary/Derethian_Bestiary#Virindi|Bestiary: Virindi]]</ref> The fact that the Virindi are explicitly stated to be the first to arrive could imply a wide range of things. Perhaps they intentionally or unintentionally disrupted portal space. Or perhaps, when they fought Asheron the battle weakened the wizard and some protection he placed on the currents of portal space fell. Whatever the case, it seems unlikely that the Sundering is the true cause, but the truth may never be revealed.
<br><br>According to the [[AC:DM CD Lore]], the Virindi arrived on Dereth before any other race, and they fought Asheron over something and lost.<ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean/><ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean>2001/11 [[Dark Majesty]] - [[AC:DM_CD_Lore/Bestiary/Derethian_Bestiary#Virindi|Bestiary: Virindi]]</ref> The fact that the Virindi are explicitly stated to be the first to arrive could imply a wide range of things. Perhaps they intentionally or unintentionally disrupted portal space. Or perhaps, when they fought Asheron the battle weakened the wizard and some protection he placed on the currents of portal space fell. Whatever the case, it seems unlikely that the Sundering is the true cause, but the truth may never be revealed.
 
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== Harlune and the Timeline ==
The basic story for Harlune is that when he was visiting Ispar with other Empyreans as explorers/researchers, he saw what was going on in Aluvia with Alfrega, and decided to stay behind during the next trip to Ispar.<ref>2003/05 [[Discoveries]] - [[Letter to Asheron]]</ref> He did so, and helped free Aluvia from Viamontian rule.<ref name=TheReignOfAlfrega>1999/11 [[Release]] - [[The Reign of Alfrega]]</ref> Harlune was not swept away into portal space with the rest of the Yalaini when Asheron cast the Sundering spell because he was still on Ispar. When portals to Dereth from Ispar began to appear, he returned and went to live in the mite maze. There are five important events:
# The invasion of Aluvia
#: This is said to occur on 804 RC.<ref name=TheReignOfAlfrega/>
# The first mention of Harlune on Ispar during the reign of Alfrega.
#: This happens during leafcull of 860 RC.<ref name=TheReignOfAlfrega/>
# The Olthoi arrival on Auberean.
#: This happens on HE 459.<ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean/>
# Asheron Casting the Sundering.
#: This happens at HE 647. <ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean/>
# The beginning of AC, when mass amounts of Isparians came to Dereth.
#: This is the beginning of the Portal Year calendar, 0 PY.<ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean/>
 
From the Ages of the Empyrean, we are told that 0 PY = 1276 RC = ME 579.<ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean/> ME 579 would be equal to HE 1226, if the Third Age of Lore had continued on. Converting the dates into comparable forms, we get the following:
 
# The invasion of Aluvia
#: 804 RC
#: -472 PY
#: HE 854
# The first mention of Harlune on Ispar during the reign of Alfrega.
#: 860 RC
#: -416 PY
#: HE 910
# The Olthoi arrival on Auberean.
#: 509 RC
#: -767 PY
#: HE 459
# Asheron Casting the Sundering.
#: 697 RC
#: -579 PY
#: HE 647
# The beginning of AC, when mass amounts of Isparians came to Dereth.
#: 1276 RC
#: 0 PY
#: HE 1226
 
Using only official dates and conversions, the basic back-story of Harlune is not possible. He would have been present on Auberean for the invasion of the Olthoi, at which point all exploration missions would presumably have been canceled. He would also have been present on Auberean for the Sundering, which would have placed him in stasis in Portal Space with the rest of his people.
<br><br>There is no evidence of or reason for a conspiracy or cover-up, so it is unlikely the dates were intentionally created to contradict Harlune's history. The most likely explanation is that at the time when Harlune and the Reign of Alfrega were created, in beta<ref>2002/03 [[Stormwaltz Quotes]] - [http://ac.warcry.com/db/text/299 On Aluvia and Viamont]</ref><ref>2002/03 [[Stormwaltz Quotes]] - [http://ac.warcry.com/db/text/301 On Harlune and the Storyline]</ref>, the timeline was not yet set in stone, and there was likely no conversion for Roulean Calendar Years and Portal Years.
<br><br>While there is little that could be done to correct this situation other than outright changing the dates (which would then interfere with numerous other dates and events in the timeline), Harlune's back-story could probably safely be considered canonical, even if the dates do not work out.
 
== References ==
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[[Category:Lore]]
[[Category:Lore]]

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For information on the topic of continuity in fiction, continuity errors, and retroactive continuity (retcon), see wikipedia - Continuity (fiction)

The following pages attempt to document various errors in continuity, and if possible, draw a reasonable conclusion on what can be considered "canon".

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