Talk:Menhir Research - Revision history

imported>Arkalor's Bot: moved Talk:Menhir Mana Fields to Talk:Menhir Research

2012-07-15T23:34:08Z

moved Talk:Menhir Mana Fields to Talk:Menhir Research

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imported>Arkalor's Bot: moved Talk:Menhir Mana Fields to Talk:Menhir Research

2012-07-15T23:34:08Z

moved Talk:Menhir Mana Fields to Talk:Menhir Research

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imported>Elije: /* Does the chest trick work? */

2010-05-15T15:47:57Z

Does the chest trick work?

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	:maybe by "open" they mean "unlock". Unlock with one character, quickly switch to another, ''then'' open it. I'd assume you could also use this trick by dual logging 2 accounts, which would be perhaps a little safer too. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 22:24, May 10, 2010 (UTC)		:maybe by "open" they mean "unlock". Unlock with one character, quickly switch to another, ''then'' open it. I'd assume you could also use this trick by dual logging 2 accounts, which would be perhaps a little safer too. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 22:24, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

			:I confirmed last night that unlocking then switching works. I don't know if opening works, but since we know unlocking does, I changed that word in the Notes to prevent any trouble. [[User:Elije\|Elije]] 15:47, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

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imported>An Adventurer: /* Does the chest trick work? */

2010-05-10T22:24:01Z

Does the chest trick work?

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	I have not personally tested this, but I must assume that it was at least possible to do when written, as he and others have done it. (I've seen a completely separate writeup on a private board for the same thing, with several people who had done it and replied.) The instructions don't explicitly state to close the chest, which is perhaps where your experience differs. Perhaps merely opening the chest and logging while it's open will do the trick? [[User:Elije\|Elije]] 21:37, May 10, 2010 (UTC)		I have not personally tested this, but I must assume that it was at least possible to do when written, as he and others have done it. (I've seen a completely separate writeup on a private board for the same thing, with several people who had done it and replied.) The instructions don't explicitly state to close the chest, which is perhaps where your experience differs. Perhaps merely opening the chest and logging while it's open will do the trick? [[User:Elije\|Elije]] 21:37, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

	:maybe by "open" they mean "unlock". Unlock with one character, quickly switch to another, ''then'' open it. I'd assume you could also use this trick by dual logging 2 accounts, which would be perhaps a little safer too.		:maybe by "open" they mean "unlock". Unlock with one character, quickly switch to another, ''then'' open it. I'd assume you could also use this trick by dual logging 2 accounts, which would be perhaps a little safer too. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 22:24, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
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imported>An Adventurer: /* Does the chest trick work? */

2010-05-10T22:23:46Z

Does the chest trick work?

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	I have not personally tested this, but I must assume that it was at least possible to do when written, as he and others have done it. (I've seen a completely separate writeup on a private board for the same thing, with several people who had done it and replied.) The instructions don't explicitly state to close the chest, which is perhaps where your experience differs. Perhaps merely opening the chest and logging while it's open will do the trick? [[User:Elije\|Elije]] 21:37, May 10, 2010 (UTC)		I have not personally tested this, but I must assume that it was at least possible to do when written, as he and others have done it. (I've seen a completely separate writeup on a private board for the same thing, with several people who had done it and replied.) The instructions don't explicitly state to close the chest, which is perhaps where your experience differs. Perhaps merely opening the chest and logging while it's open will do the trick? [[User:Elije\|Elije]] 21:37, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

			:maybe by "open" they mean "unlock". Unlock with one character, quickly switch to another, ''then'' open it. I'd assume you could also use this trick by dual logging 2 accounts, which would be perhaps a little safer too.
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imported>An Adventurer: /* Level restrictions and recommendations */

2010-05-10T22:21:43Z

Level restrictions and recommendations

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			:My bad. I totally blanked on the 50+ req for the quest when I added in those restrictions and suggestions. Thanks for cleaning it up. --[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 22:21, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

	=== Does the chest trick work? ===		=== Does the chest trick work? ===

imported>Elije: /* Actual Page Discussion */

2010-05-10T21:37:39Z

Actual Page Discussion

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	== ~~Actual~~ Page Discussion ==		== Page Discussion ==
			=== Level restrictions and recommendations ===
	I generally approve of the cleanup to my earlier cleanup, in regards to the last field having been found. I wanted to note that the entries on level restriction and recommendation were very confusing, so I made changes in that regard. What was missing in the latest revision was the fact that you must be level 50+ to even get a stone. All of the level recommendations that were less than level 50 were completely superfluous and confusing at that point; I see no good in recommending someone be 20+ to complete a segment of a quest that you must be 50+ to initiate.		I generally approve of the cleanup to my earlier cleanup, in regards to the last field having been found. I wanted to note that the entries on level restriction and recommendation were very confusing, so I made changes in that regard. What was missing in the latest revision was the fact that you must be level 50+ to even get a stone. All of the level recommendations that were less than level 50 were completely superfluous and confusing at that point; I see no good in recommending someone be 20+ to complete a segment of a quest that you must be 50+ to initiate.

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			=== Does the chest trick work? ===

			The bottom of the article implies you can open the chest and then close it and allow another to loot. You cannot. The grand chest automatically locks instantly on close. The wiki page should be updated to reflect this. (Unsigned comment, moved here from the bottom of the page in an unrelated section)

			I have not personally tested this, but I must assume that it was at least possible to do when written, as he and others have done it. (I've seen a completely separate writeup on a private board for the same thing, with several people who had done it and replied.) The instructions don't explicitly state to close the chest, which is perhaps where your experience differs. Perhaps merely opening the chest and logging while it's open will do the trick? [[User:Elije\|Elije]] 21:37, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

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imported>Elije: /* Other */

2010-05-10T21:31:25Z

Other

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	* [[The Floating City]]		* [[The Floating City]]
	* [[Ulgrim's Mysterious Hatch]]		* [[Ulgrim's Mysterious Hatch]]


	The bottom of the article implies you can open the chest and then close it and allow another to loot. You cannot. The grand chest automatically locks instantly on close. The wiki page should be updated to reflect this.

imported>Elije at 21:21, 10 May 2010

2010-05-10T21:21:03Z

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			== Actual Page Discussion ==
			I generally approve of the cleanup to my earlier cleanup, in regards to the last field having been found. I wanted to note that the entries on level restriction and recommendation were very confusing, so I made changes in that regard. What was missing in the latest revision was the fact that you must be level 50+ to even get a stone. All of the level recommendations that were less than level 50 were completely superfluous and confusing at that point; I see no good in recommending someone be 20+ to complete a segment of a quest that you must be 50+ to initiate.

			I understand the styles and conventions of the wiki give level recommendations to quests, and it might indeed be helpful to include these (and I use "might" with great deference, as I find the level recommendations on this wiki to be completely subjective and meaningless), but they should only go in places where the individual recommendation is greater than 50. I removed them all because there are only four fields which have a level requirement higher than 50 and in each case the level recommendation was equal to the level requirement. (One could argue for the Aerfalle field that the recommendation should be a bit higher, but I tend to have difficulty in generating subjective requirements, so I did not include a revised number.)

			I don't claim to have used the single "best" approach and would welcome further revisions to my input, but it must remain clear, first and foremost, that one must be at least level 50 to get the stone in the first place. I would prefer not to see level recommendations that do more to confuse than enlighten (ie, less than 50), but I might be convinced otherwise on that point.

			On a final note, I put "35" as the level requirement on the two near the obsidian rim portal because that portal, by far the most effective route to the area, has a level 35 requirement. This is not reflected in the wiki entry for this portal, and I will modify it next. It's theoretically possible to reach this area on a level 5, but given the instructions' reference to that portal, it made sense to use its level restriction.
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			[[User:Elije\|Elije]] 21:21, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

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	''See also: [http://forums.ac.turbine.com/showthread.php?t=45124 this thread] on the Turbine Boards''		''See also: [http://forums.ac.turbine.com/showthread.php?t=45124 this thread] on the Turbine Boards''
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	<font color=red><b>Search is complete! All 20 locations have been found. The following is for historical purposes</b></font>		<font color=red><b>Search is complete! All 20 locations have been found. The following is for historical purposes</b></font>

imported>Lagmatic at 19:32, 9 May 2010

2010-05-09T19:32:20Z

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			The bottom of the article implies you can open the chest and then close it and allow another to loot. You cannot. The grand chest automatically locks instantly on close. The wiki page should be updated to reflect this.