Forum:Merging Skill articles with related pages - Revision history

imported>Tlosk at 09:59, 29 November 2010

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	\| Text = I'd support it for the generic weapons as they are simple and essentially interchangeable (in format/style), I think the magic schools/crafting might best remain on their own pages (and perhaps thrown weapons as well).		\| Text = I'd support it for the generic weapons as they are simple and essentially interchangeable (in format/style), I think the magic schools/crafting might best remain on their own pages (and perhaps thrown weapons as well).

			Also for keeping the listing pages up to date, I've been working on Wiki Swiss Tool 1.7 over the holiday and one of the things it can do now is pull stats/info for all items in a category export file and use it to populate a table, it still has to be hand checked after but it takes most of the grunt work out of it.

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imported>Tlosk at 09:56, 29 November 2010

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			\| Text = I'd support it for the generic weapons as they are simple and essentially interchangeable (in format/style), I think the magic schools/crafting might best remain on their own pages (and perhaps thrown weapons as well).

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imported>Arkalor at 21:20, 28 November 2010

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			\| Text = Your sandbox looks nice and it makes sense, but I would prefer if it remained as a list of items unless there was a way to add like a page two when it gets to 200 entries or so (casters are at 210) in a frame or something?.

			I will be keeping the weapons and armor pages up to date when they're complete because they seem to get alot of views. I wouldn't of minded updating links if pages were merged.

			--[[User:Arkalor\|Ash (Arkalor)]] 08:20, 29 November 2010 (EST)

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imported>An Adventurer at 19:00, 28 November 2010

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	\| Text = I like the idea for weapons, but for crafting you're gonna be including TONS of stuff, i mean look at [[Food]], there is a lot of stuff there. Alchemy is even worse with craftable prot gems and alchemy grenades etc. Also, there are a lot of recipes in cooking and fletching that also require alchemy. I suppose giant pages aren't so bad since all skills will be uniform. --[[User:Immortalbob\|Immortalbob]] 05:19, 29 November 2010 (EST)		\| Text = I like the idea for weapons, but for crafting you're gonna be including TONS of stuff, i mean look at [[Food]], there is a lot of stuff there. Alchemy is even worse with craftable prot gems and alchemy grenades etc. Also, there are a lot of recipes in cooking and fletching that also require alchemy. I suppose giant pages aren't so bad since all skills will be uniform. --[[User:Immortalbob\|Immortalbob]] 05:19, 29 November 2010 (EST)
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			\| Text = Good point. The pages for the original 3 craft skills would be a huge mess. And after working on my sandbox test page for sword, I think most weapons would as well. So I think I will start by first dropping the (Skill) from skill article titles, and improving the information on the pages, but I will leave the other pages un-merged. I believe the only conflict I will have is with Thrown Weapons, so I will move the weapons listing page to Atlatls and Thrown Weapons.

			Really, I just want to get all the skill pages in better shape before the patch. If we do any merging, that can happen later.

			--[[User:An Adventurer\|An Adventurer]] 06:00, 29 November 2010 (EST)
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imported>Immortalbob at 18:19, 28 November 2010

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			\| Text = I like the idea for weapons, but for crafting you're gonna be including TONS of stuff, i mean look at [[Food]], there is a lot of stuff there. Alchemy is even worse with craftable prot gems and alchemy grenades etc. Also, there are a lot of recipes in cooking and fletching that also require alchemy. I suppose giant pages aren't so bad since all skills will be uniform. --[[User:Immortalbob\|Immortalbob]] 05:19, 29 November 2010 (EST)
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| Text = I'm thinking of merging skill articles with their related pages. For example, [[Alchemy (Skill)]] & [[Alchemy]] would be merged together into [[Alchemy]], and [[Sword (Skill)]] & [[Swords]] would be merged together into [[Sword]]. All merged pages would redirect to the new location. You can see my first stab at it here: [[User:An Adventurer/Sandbox 2]].

Basically, all information on a skill and its uses would be merged into one place. All skills would have the basic skill information table. Crafting skills would list items and recipes. Weapons would list all the quest weapons (and all the rest of the content on the current weapon listing pages). Magic skills would list their spells, and possibly any casters specifically for that school (i.e. war to activate, item to wield).

'''Pros'''
* All information relating to a given skill would be on a single article. So for example, someone looking up maces would immediately know that Gear Knights/Viamontians can get the skill trained for free. Or someone researching whether or not to take alchemy can immediately see all its uses.
* We'd get rid of the (Skill) suffix which can cause linking issues (at least on the official forums) due to the article title ending in ).
* We could create a section to describe skills in more detail. For example, currently the only place that describes and compares the weapon skills is in the [[Beginner's Guide to Playing a Warrior]] article. This information could be added to the skill articles.

'''Cons'''
* Page would have a lot of information, would increase load time.
* It could be hard to get all the information organized and clean looking for some skills, like weapons, or cooking which has hundreds of recipes.
* There would be a lot of links that need to get cleaned up eventually.

Thoughts?

--[[User:An Adventurer|An Adventurer]] 04:12, 29 November 2010 (EST)
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