Forum:Items, Quest Items and Trophies - Revision history

imported>Arkalor at 12:14, 16 November 2014

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	\| Text = I recently moved all the entries that were in [[:Category:~~Item~~]] to [[:Category:Quest ~~Item~~]] as that seemed to be a perfect subcategory for the type of item left in there.		\| Text = I recently moved all the entries that were in [[:Category:Items]] to [[:Category:Quest Items]] as that seemed to be a perfect subcategory for the type of item left in there.

	The problem is, quest items dropped by creatures are using the trophy template. I was wondering if maybe we could define trophies, instead, as any item dropped by a creature which is not only used for quest purposes? That way Category:Trophy would contain more useful crafting and xp item drops.		The problem is, quest items dropped by creatures are using the trophy template. I was wondering if maybe we could define trophies, instead, as any item dropped by a creature which is not only used for quest purposes? That way Category:Trophy would contain more useful crafting and xp item drops.
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	I looked over [[Quest Item Template]] and [[Trophy Template]]. At a quick glance they are pretty much the same and I can see why you would want to merge them. The only noticeable difference is in the notes field and that the quest item template has an inscription variable. However, there is an important thing to note: In the actual wiki templates ~~({{tl\|~~Quest Item}} and ~~{{tl\|~~Trophy~~}})~~, they have automatic categorization for category:quest item and category:trophy. One of the huge benefits of using templates is this auto-categorization. If the trophy template is removed, someone will need to go through all the pages that used that template and add the category by hand.		I looked over Quest Item Template and [[Trophy Template. At a quick glance they are pretty much the same and I can see why you would want to merge them. The only noticeable difference is in the notes field and that the quest item template has an inscription variable. However, there is an important thing to note: In the actual wiki templates Quest Item and Trophy, they have automatic categorization for category:quest item and category:trophy. One of the huge benefits of using templates is this auto-categorization. If the trophy template is removed, someone will need to go through all the pages that used that template and add the category by hand.

	So, I say keep both page/wiki templates.		So, I say keep both page/wiki templates.

imported>An Adventurer at 12:50, 27 July 2012

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imported>Arkalor at 00:49, 27 July 2012

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			Great answer and thanks for replying.

			I was thinking just for the purposes of the wiki we could have trophies as items given in to any of the [[Collectors]] (like the Olthoi Claw you listed) regardless of if they have a quest use. And quest items are literally things just used as quest items (no use at all outside of the quest/s) regardless of whether they are dropped by creatures or not.

			I think this is pretty much what you just said, but in a different way...but err yeah, definately not back or white and a tad confusing when we need to list trophies as quest items in a guide o_O.

			I was going to add this note to the [[Trophy Template]] for clarity if you agree, and then clean up the trophy category as it's full of items like the Mutilator Pincer.

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			"Use this template for items dropped by creatures that can be given to [[Collectors]]. If the item is dropped by a specific creature and is only used as part of a Quest, use the [[Quest Item Template]]."

			Thanks.
			--[[User:Arkalor\|Arkalor]] 10:49, 27 July 2012 (EST)

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imported>An Adventurer at 21:04, 26 July 2012

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imported>Arkalor at 02:04, 25 July 2012

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			\| Text = Or, how about we just do away with the Trophy Template altogether and use the category tag instead as an item dropped by a creature could be any type of item, right?

			You could say the same thing about the quest item template, but the majority of quest items are just unusable, attuned items with not many other properties.

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The problem is, quest items dropped by creatures are using the trophy template. I was wondering if maybe we could define trophies, instead, as any item dropped by a creature which is not only used for quest purposes? That way Category:Trophy would contain more useful crafting and xp item drops.

Anyone see a problem with this?

Thanks --[[User:Arkalor|Arkalor]] 12:02, 21 July 2012 (EST)
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